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a friend told me that my LOTR artworks are sold in ebay
cgi.ebay.fr/Lord-of-the-Rings-…
and I only sell my art in DA now,that maybe this guy bought my art and resell in ebay.
hope friends notice the information.

and thanks
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:iconphanteia:
Phanteia Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
Report him immediately!
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:iconrebelatoli:
RebelAtoli Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013   Writer
even if he did buy a print, he didn't even credit you as the artist, and he has many different art from people on DA, none credited, so, it seems fishy to me...
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MayVig Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe you should sell exactly the same on eBay for a cheaper price. For sure eBayers will prefer to buy from the artist.
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Shelidon Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
Oh, man, I'm sorry that you feel this way, but it's not illegal to sell a print. Let's say that I bought the very same print on eBay (true), and let's say that I don't want it anymore (false): I have every right to sell it on eBay or wherever I see fit. I'm not even sure that I have to mention the author, honestly: you don't have to mention the author or editor of a used book you decided to sell, you have every right (again) to provide an incomplete description for your whares. As a shop, I'm pretty confident you can systematically buy from DA and sell on eBay tripling the price. What you are NOT allowed to do is using a print you bought in order to make more copies of it, because by buying the prints you didn't acquire also the rights of reproduction. I'm sorry, man. Though I love your work and I would be the first one to fight at your side in order for you to take all the credit you deserve, there's nothing technically illegal in what this person is doing.
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DawnnsCuteBoutique Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's legal to resell something you own. Now if he's not selling a print he owns then that's a problem.
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:iconfantasylost:
FantasyLost Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012   Digital Artist
After looking at the other fine artwork he has up for sale on eBay, my guess is that he doesn't have the right to make and sell prints of any of it. I see that he is also selling prints of this DA artist's artwork: [link] . Here's his eBay page of this same artwork: [link]

It's a real shame that this type of theft is so common now.
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:iconevolvana:
Evolvana Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
It seems the guy is selling prints he bought in conventions (and have the signature of the authors) and he sells them at a very high price. (is that legal? I asked one of these authors and he said it was legal to sell again one print he bought before)

But in the case of :iconbreathing2004: , the guy on Ebay didn't buy these prints so has no right to do so without permission. It seems that he has no rights either on the picture you just linked, yes... it's stolen art... I hope Ebay will close his shop!
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:iconfantasylost:
FantasyLost Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012   Digital Artist
Ah, I see now; it does show that the print was uploaded under Art > Art from Dealers and Resellers > Prints. If the seller legally bought the print, then the seller should be able to re-sell it for a profit just as artworks are sold and re-sold all the time at regular art auctions. I apparently mistakenly read into the description that the seller was creating his own prints. Thanks for your information!
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:iconrebelatoli:
RebelAtoli Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013   Writer
If he actually has a genuine copy of the prints, you'd think he'd credit the artist, right?
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:iconfantasylost:
FantasyLost Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013   Digital Artist
Yes, when you sell artwork that you haven't created yourself, you normally credit the actual artist. It's rather odd that he didn't do so.
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:iconrebelatoli:
RebelAtoli Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013   Writer
He has at least 30 different art prints on there, and I checked through several, and there wasn't any credits on them anywhere that I could see.

I don't really want to jump to any conclusions, but that is VERY fishy to me.

And even if he does own these prints for real, then he is at the very least extremely rude and disrespectful!
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:iconevolvana:
Evolvana Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012
yes but :breathing2004: said he did not sell or allow the reselling of his art!
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EruwaedhielElleth Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
I'm no legal expert, but I've done quite a bit of studying on this, and here's my 2 cents, if it helps you understand any:

IF it's an actual print that was legally bought, (not a digital copy, although even a digital file may be resold under the condition that it changes hands completely, and no copy of it is made.) then the original artist has no ability to say whether it can be resold or not. Once bought, the print is fully the property of whoever bought it, and they may resell it if they so choose, with or without credit. A print should have the original artist's signature on it anyway, if it doesn't, then it probably wasn't legally bought.

copyright doesn't grant as much control over what can and cannot be done with works as most people seem to believe. It was not created in the beginning to give broad, sweeping powers over every aspect of the copyrighted material, though that seems to be the trend now. Today, there's a lot of copyright abuse going both ways. For instance, a common misconception is about saving of files: but if you put out your work publicly online, you have no right to complain if somebody chooses to save that image to their own personal computer to look at offline later, though they have no right to re-upload the image elsewhere, whether credit is given or no.

(basically, due to the way the internet works, if someone is even able to view something online, it has already been downloaded to their hard drive, and that's the price paid for the convenience and large audiences of the internet. That's why artists that sell their images/photos usually do not offer full resolution pictures for viewing, and/or use a watermark.)

However, If someone's printing their own prints off other people's artwork and selling it, then that does violate copyright.

Of course, strictly from a legal standpoint, the LOTR artwork is considered fanart, and since the original artist does not have rights to LOTR material, they don't own the copyright on it either, and shouldn't be selling. They also don't have much ground to stand on when it comes to other people using or modifying their artwork for strictly personal use, as that's what they themselves are doing by creating it to begin with. (fanart is a pretty muddled grey area when it comes to legality) Fortunately there is some grace there, as it's at the discretion of the game/movie/book etc. copyright holder to allow fanart to be made or sold, and many don't mind as long as it's small-time and doesn't claim to have any official support.

In the case of this fellow though, if the signature appears to have been tampered with, and he had more than a believable number of images from different artists for sale, then he's probably stealing and printing his own. He could certainly be reported, and possibly Ebay could take action against him under their own rules, but the artist of these particular prints may not have much of a case in an actual lawsuit, due to the fact that it's fanart.
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Evolvana Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
I think the author of these LOTR fanart never sold these prints to anyone, so that guy on Ebay is just printing himself and selling, and that's illegal. I know the author can't ask for money because it's a fanart, but the other guy should be punished for selling fanart prints he doesn't have any right on.
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Allendra3 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You should take legal action over this.
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Sir-Pumpkinhead Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry to read this, man. Reported the guy over at ebay. Hopefully they'll remove your stuff soon enough.
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WickedFerret Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You should definitely complain directly to ebay as the copyright holder for those pieces.
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:iconevolvana:
Evolvana Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
I'll try to contact Ebay to tell them that seller is a thief!
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Azot2014 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
bitches!
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Seykloren Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Checking out other stuff he has in his store, I recognise other work aswell that is not by him,so this guy is defo doing something illegal. It is not right that I print with my printer your artwork and sell it, he is redistributing something he does not own and never purchased any rights to it and you should defenatly report him (aswell as I would make his store public here on deviantArt and other art showing sites so other artists can do the same as you).
It could be a different story if he had purchased lets say a print from you, he dont want it anymore and he wants to sell it away, but this guy is making countless of prints of your work and selling them
on a daily basis.
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Lijah Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Furthermore, he adds his copyright on the artwork of breathing2004...It is just disgusting to see this.
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Seykloren Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Oh,I did not notice that, thats defenatly an addittion. This defenatly needs to be reported and as much as I personaly would love to just go and throw the tantrum and get him banned, as all other sites, they request the original creator to file a complaint. But ye, the word of this defenatly needs to be spread, so others can take the same action and have the person be removed and banned, the more people report his theft from the original artists,the faster they will react.
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xValkyrja Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You'll have to contact Ebay's VeRO section to file a complaint that the image is your intellectual property. I'd imagine you'd have to provide proof that it's yours (eg. possibly linking them back to the original here or something) and hopefully that would be enough to force them to either remove it or force the seller to. Best case scenario, the seller is banned.
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cyandorman27 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
given the fact that after looking over the site ( and probably doing a poor job translating it )
it doesn't look like that person mentions you whatsoever

I'd file a complaint, it's theft. buying and reselling to pass it off as your own isn't right
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swb1m1 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
Change the URL to .com if you want it in English.
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